A depiction of DTA (C14H10S2), a 3-element synthetic molecule that walks like a human, with a triple benzene ring body, and two sulfur-hydrogen legs, i.e. thiol (Ѻ) leg. |
A screen shot from Libb Thims' 2016 video “Walking Molecules: Philosophical Implications”, wherein he explains that to call DTA, a CHS-bipedal, as "not-alive", and to call a HUMAN, a CHNOPS+20-bipedal, "alive" is but a fallacious anthropism-rooted mythological dualism divide, buttressed by layers of ignorance. |
“We are NOT in agreement. The terms “life”, “biological”, “biosphere”, are all meaningless. Science is very specific. According to your definition (life = structure with metabolism), then, one would conclude that a [synthetic] ‘walking molecule’ is alive. Is the walking molecule DTA (9,10-dithioanthracene) alive? Yes or No? What about the two-legged motile protein ‘kinesin’ (Ѻ) that walks along microtubules carrying loads to destinations, being powered by ATP. (Ѻ) Kinesin is a small 6-element molecule, with molecular formula of about C400H620N100O120P50S20, that walks, carries things, and has a metabolism. Kinesin is like a little human. Do you think that kinesin is alive? Certainly not. It is simply an animate molecule, just like you or I. The problem with the calling some "thing" alive is that it implies perpetual motion of both the first and second kind.”— Libb Thims (2010). “Origin of Life Debate with Georgi Gladyshev” (post #9), Dec 6
“Effectively, DTA kind of rotates around each of the feet and wobbles forward or wobbles backward.”See also— Ludwig Bartels (2005), interview with MIT Technology Reviews [3]
“It is often a neglected fact that humans are molecules that walk, run, and sometimes fly, on or above a 'surface', which from a chemical-definitions sense can be defined as either substrate or catalyst, depending on the context of discussion, which varies depending on subject mode: surface chemistry, surface physics, or surface thermodynamics. In this perspective, an intuitive way to better come to understand human behavior (movement and reactions) is to use the conception or reality that humans are 'walking molecules' on a surface and, using this perspective, study the behaviors and operation of smaller nano-size 'walking molecules'. The first operational walking molecules were developed in 2004 by German-born American physical chemist Ludwig Bartels, at the University of California Riverside, who designed a molecule, called 9,10-dithioanthracene (DTA), that can walk in a straight line on a flat surface, like a little person.”— Libb Thims (2010), opening paragraph from “Walking Molecule” section of the human molecule article; quoted (Ѻ) by QuantumMystics (2015) at BellGab forums, Nov 11
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